Feminism Wasn't a Reaction to Opression (23)

  • offgridenthusiast Dating Profile
    offgridenthusiast OP 686 Posts Society Hill, South Carolina, USA
    Aug 3, 2025 5:41 PM UTC
    This video contains information and commentary about the true origins of feminism that is never taught or even acknowledged in main stream America. It also shows that women were never really oppressed but lived as they do now with much privilege while it's been men who have been and are still the ones who are truly oppressed.


    Edited: Aug 3, 2025 5:43 PM UTC
  • Needmore Dating Profile
    Needmore 608 Posts Waseca, Minnesota, USA
    Aug 3, 2025 6:16 PM UTC
    Wow you poor bastard. Feel sorry for offgridtard. Poor guy. All the women he knows are against him. Find yourself a guy to make you happy and go away. Leave the rest of us alone already.
  • Rosilove Dating Profile
    Rosilove 432 Posts Chicago, Illinois, USA
    Aug 3, 2025 8:23 PM UTC
    The video doesn’t convey anything concrete. It’s rather a debate between a partisan mediator who believes that women were never oppressed and few participants (some had broken conversation too!) who argue that there is a timeless tension between systemic women oppression and the human desire for equity and autonomy.

    To understand the evolution of feminism as a response to oppression, consider the following points:

    • Feminism emerged as a movement to address systemic inequalities faced by women.

    • Historical oppression, such as lack of voting rights and property ownership, fueled feminist activism.

    • Key events, like the Seneca Falls Convention, highlighted women's demands for equality.

    • Feminism has evolved through various waves, each responding to specific societal injustices.

    • Intersectionality within feminism addresses the compounded oppression faced by marginalized groups.

    • Simone de Beauvoir, Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, Judith Butler, Angela Davis are few who sparked the second wave of feminism in the U.S. focusing on race, class, gender, and their intersections in the fight for women’s equality.

    • Ongoing issues, such as gender-based violence and wage gaps, continue to drive feminist movements today.


  • offgridenthusiast Dating Profile
    offgridenthusiast OP 686 Posts Society Hill, South Carolina, USA
    Aug 3, 2025 10:07 PM UTC

    Quote:
    The video doesn’t convey anything concrete. It’s rather a debate between a partisan mediator who believes that women were never oppressed and few participants (some had broken conversation too!) who argue that there is a timeless tension between systemic women oppression and the human desire for equity and autonomy.

    To understand the evolution of feminism as a response to oppression, consider the following points:

    • Feminism emerged as a movement to address systemic inequalities faced by women.

    • Historical oppression, such as lack of voting rights and property ownership, fueled feminist activism.

    • Key events, like the Seneca Falls Convention, highlighted women's demands for equality.

    • Feminism has evolved through various waves, each responding to specific societal injustices.

    • Intersectionality within feminism addresses the compounded oppression faced by marginalized groups.

    • Simone de Beauvoir, Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, Judith Butler, Angela Davis are few who sparked the second wave of feminism in the U.S. focusing on race, class, gender, and their intersections in the fight for women’s equality.

    • Ongoing issues, such as gender-based violence and wage gaps, continue to drive feminist movements today.



    It's obvious that even if you saw the video you were not going to watch it with the intent to learn anything that contradicts the brainwashing you've already received. Here in lies the problem with those who have been deeply brainwashed. The information on the origins of where, when, why and how it came about is out there. Everything your sources told you to believe was added after the fact to bolster an imaginary oppression of women. A perfect example of a lie is you citing the wage gap that I already explained was a lie. That one is extremely easy to debunk, but you didn't accept it simply because your programming runs to deep.

    And for the record I don't cite sources other then commentary and whatever sources may already be contained in it because I believe if people really want to know the truth they will learn more by searching for it themselves. The biggest recommendation I give is for them to go outside their echo chamber sources and search because only then will they truly find the truth.

  • Rosilove Dating Profile
    Rosilove 432 Posts Chicago, Illinois, USA
    Aug 3, 2025 11:55 PM UTC
    I have gone through it. Conflicting viewpoints of participants can create cognitive dissonance, making the video hard for viewers to form a clear opinion. I know that readers in this forum are capable of extensive following, comprehending and understanding the diverse topics that I have been presenting and they are never brainwashed.

    Readers have no time to ramble through cumbersome videos to “run out of their echo chamber”, chasing futile concepts.

    Presentations should be:

    • Straightforward and easily grasped with minimal detail.
    • Simplicity allows for quick communication without overwhelming the audience.
    • Elaborate explanations can lead to confusion rather than clarity.
    • Time constraints often favor concise information over lengthy discussions.

  • MisterSomeone Dating Profile
    MisterSomeone 643 Posts Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 12:37 AM UTC
    Ongoing issues
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    MisterSomeone 643 Posts Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 1:28 AM UTC
    Very interesting a woman would take such a stance. Rachel Wilson challenges conventional thought and presents some interesting arguments.
    I myself think we were better off in the Garden of Eden.
    Rachel Wilson thinks we were better off before the Feminist Movement and regards females enjoyed more privileged lives before the feminist movement. She startles the listeners with interesting points. She does not believe the lives of females are better from the Feminist Movement, but that the lives of women have become worse through the movement. Very interesting perspectives that she delivers. Are we now better off?
    We were better off in the Garden of Eden before touching a wrong tree.
    Rachel Wilson argues that the world was better off and that women were better off before the feminist movement and that more is lost from the feminist movement than has been gained.
  • Looking64 Dating Profile
    Looking64 13 Posts Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 5:58 AM UTC

    Quote:
    This video contains information and commentary about the true origins of feminism that is never taught or even acknowledged in main stream America. It also shows that women were never really oppressed but lived as they do now with much privilege while it's been men who have been and are still the ones who are truly oppressed.




    Usually when it comes to claims, I personally avoid never and always statements because there could have been one or two flukes or exceptions throughout history. Today, when men become unemployed and lose the residency requirements to vote, it is ignored. Feminists ignore the sexism in the other direction and oppression of other groups especially when it goes against them or their agenda. Females generally do not go out in the field and work for eight hours a day for decades. The video also pointed out that the majority of men did not have a choice of women. This is so true today, even to the point that women are begging good men to go back to popular dating sites. Personally, I would probably argue that men and women were oppressed as well as many other groups back then, but oppressed much less than other places around the world at the time if one views things from that perspective.

    Some incorrectly turn from issues of biological sexism to gender. If gender cannot be known, then how can you be sure someone else is oppressed by their gender? If anyone can be either gender or something else, then the gender pay gap could be males who were underpaid under a different gender ...; that is without even taking into account that women choose easier jobs, lower-paying jobs, and low-risk jobs, and that varies by job or career field, place, and time.

    It is sad that feminism destroys good and neutral men because of being against the patriarchy which as was pointed out merely means the father should be the head of the family. If they were truly for equality they would be against matriarchies too.

    Feminism also hurts women because many women do not get to reproduce or they reproduce less than other women. (That was someone else's point on another video and not my own so I don't get accused of plagiarism.)

    It was sad that I lived through a time when the radical left was censoring videos from youtube and others like PragerU because they showed what was happening or how the left was wrong.

  • MisterSomeone Dating Profile
    MisterSomeone 643 Posts Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 12:58 PM UTC
    Some good points, Looking64. "If gender cannot be known, then how can you be sure someone else is oppressed by their gender?" "If they were truly for equality they would be against matriarchies too."

    The video seemed to be a woman arguing for patriarchy, and of men arguing for a woman's choice and a more matriarchy society.
  • offgridenthusiast Dating Profile
    offgridenthusiast OP 686 Posts Society Hill, South Carolina, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 2:00 PM UTC

    Quote:
    I have gone through it. Conflicting viewpoints of participants can create cognitive dissonance, making the video hard for viewers to form a clear opinion. I know that readers in this forum are capable of extensive following, comprehending and understanding the diverse topics that I have been presenting and they are never brainwashed.

    Readers have no time to ramble through cumbersome videos to “run out of their echo chamber”, chasing futile concepts.

    Presentations should be:

    • Straightforward and easily grasped with minimal detail.
    • Simplicity allows for quick communication without overwhelming the audience.
    • Elaborate explanations can lead to confusion rather than clarity.
    • Time constraints often favor concise information over lengthy discussions.



    I think when you say conflicting points of view you're speaking about those who are talking to Rachel Wilson. Because of their indoctrination none of them really seem to grasp the truth of what she's saying. All of their responses are confusing and they are conflicted because they have nothing to combat what she tells them. Since the feminist movement really got started they have scrubbed so much history from the education system that it's no wonder most don't know what really happened in the recent past or history in general. Here's a couple of examples of scrubbed history: Whites weren't the only one's in the US who had slaves! There were several BLACKS who owned slaves and also some WOMEN who had slaves but is any of that taught or even really mentioned? Of course not. It was scrubbed from history because knowing the truth about slavery destroys the "hate whitey" movement and that movement makes it easier for race baiters to brain wash weak minds and extort money. Money and control are the main motivations behind all liberal ideologies but truth and freedom are destructive to it.

    I agree that there are some readers on this forum who are "capable of extensive following, comprehending and understanding" but you don't seem to be one of them. You don't want to learn, you just repeat what you're told. You like most people want someone else to do all the leg work and then tell you what to believe. It's easier to do that then to go out and do the work yourself. Now that's not necessarily bad unless those who you've decided to follow are filling your head with falsehoods. In your case that exactly what's happened and still happening. You've chosen the wrong people to follow and your reasons are truly selfish. You follow them because you think they're making your life better which just circles back to what Rachel pointed out which was that women were better off before feminism. Back then women got to stay home raise healthy children while men worked hard paid the bills and sometimes willingly sacrificed their lives for their family.

    Try and let this sink in. Feminism has caused wages to stagnate for the same work previously performed by 1 person and made a 2 income household a necessity. You like most women want a man that makes a lot more money than you so that you don't have to worry if you bills are going to be paid. But feminism has made that almost impossible because men and women now make the same money for comparable work. Feminism has flooded the market with twice as many bodies and driven down wages. That is part of what Rachel Wilson was talking about. You think you are better off but all that's happened is the money that men used to make is now split with women and they no longer get to stay at home and raise children. And that wealthy man you think will come and give you that fairy tail life? Statistically that man doesn't exist for you or most women.
  • Rosilove Dating Profile
    Rosilove 432 Posts Chicago, Illinois, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 4:04 PM UTC
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    “..but you don't seem to be one of them. You don't want to learn, you just repeat what you're told. You like most people want someone else to do all the leg work and then tell you what to believe. It's easier to do that then to go out and do the work yourself. Now that's not necessarily bad unless those who you've decided to follow are filling your head with falsehoods..”

    “..You like most women want a man that makes a lot more money than you so that you don't have to worry if you bills are going to be paid. “

  • MisterSomeone Dating Profile
    MisterSomeone 643 Posts Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 4:35 PM UTC
    Aw to be Rowan Atkinson.
    He gets much attention here.
  • MisterSomeone Dating Profile
    MisterSomeone 643 Posts Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 4:37 PM UTC
    If all our replies could include him.
  • offgridenthusiast Dating Profile
    offgridenthusiast OP 686 Posts Society Hill, South Carolina, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 5:15 PM UTC

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    “..but you don't seem to be one of them. You don't want to learn, you just repeat what you're told. You like most people want someone else to do all the leg work and then tell you what to believe. It's easier to do that then to go out and do the work yourself. Now that's not necessarily bad unless those who you've decided to follow are filling your head with falsehoods..”

    “..You like most women want a man that makes a lot more money than you so that you don't have to worry if you bills are going to be paid. “



    The proof of what I said is contained in your very own responses. Hattip smilie emoji/emoticon smiley
  • Needmore Dating Profile
    Needmore 608 Posts Waseca, Minnesota, USA
    Aug 4, 2025 5:21 PM UTC
    Another retarded response. Says nothing. Bashes women and try’s to make himself feel bigger.
  • MisterSomeone Dating Profile
    MisterSomeone 643 Posts Grand Forks, North Dakota, USA
    Aug 5, 2025 6:51 AM UTC
    He is not bashing Rachel Wilson. He is agreeing with her.
  • strokeman609 Dating Profile
    strokeman609 2 Posts Lumberton, New Jersey, USA
    Aug 14, 2025 5:14 PM UTC

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    I have gone through it. Conflicting viewpoints of participants can create cognitive dissonance, making the video hard for viewers to form a clear opinion. I know that readers in this forum are capable of extensive following, comprehending and understanding the diverse topics that I have been presenting and they are never brainwashed.

    Readers have no time to ramble through cumbersome videos to “run out of their echo chamber”, chasing futile concepts.

    Presentations should be:

    • Straightforward and easily grasped with minimal detail.
    • Simplicity allows for quick communication without overwhelming the audience.
    • Elaborate explanations can lead to confusion rather than clarity.
    • Time constraints often favor concise information over lengthy discussions.



    Feminism has been a complete disaster. It may destroy our current civilization. All your posts appear to be you projecting. I mean you could look at the mirror, e.g. you are 29 and never had a relationship; however, you have f*ck buddy's. Seems like I solved it. You have no experience. You cant read or go to class to understand relationships. And what are you waiting for? Your sexual market value has been dropping since 25. You are at the wall, better get your man yesterday. But I hate to say it, but you will have an extremely hard time finding a husband, and i bet you will NOT get the man you want, you will have to settle, may be.

    Riddle me this bat girl, the bible's first chapter, warns humanity about women. It's called delusion, but lets measure that delusion: who is stronger pound for pound, men or women?
  • Rosilove Dating Profile
    Rosilove 432 Posts Chicago, Illinois, USA
    Aug 14, 2025 5:29 PM UTC

    Quote:
    I have gone through it. Conflicting viewpoints of participants can create cognitive dissonance, making the video hard for viewers to form a clear opinion. I know that readers in this forum are capable of extensive following, comprehending and understanding the diverse topics that I have been presenting and they are never brainwashed.

    Readers have no time to ramble through cumbersome videos to “run out of their echo chamber”, chasing futile concepts.

    Presentations should be:

    • Straightforward and easily grasped with minimal detail.
    • Simplicity allows for quick communication without overwhelming the audience.
    • Elaborate explanations can lead to confusion rather than clarity.
    • Time constraints often favor concise information over lengthy discussions.



    Quote:
    Feminism has been a complete disaster. It may destroy our current civilization. All your posts appear to be you projecting. I mean you could look at the mirror, e.g. you are 29 and never had a relationship; however, you have f*ck buddy's. Seems like I solved it. You have no experience. You cant read or go to class to understand relationships. And what are you waiting for? Your sexual market value has been dropping since 25. You are at the wall, better get your man yesterday. But I hate to say it, but you will have an extremely hard time finding a husband, and i bet you will NOT get the man you want, you will have to settle, may be.

    Riddle me this bat girl, the bible's first chapter, warns humanity about women. It's called delusion, but lets measure that delusion: who is stronger pound for pound, men or women?




    First time I am seeing you and you are talking to me with so much authority on me..?




  • offgridenthusiast Dating Profile
    offgridenthusiast OP 686 Posts Society Hill, South Carolina, USA
    Aug 14, 2025 10:37 PM UTC

    Quote:
    I have gone through it. Conflicting viewpoints of participants can create cognitive dissonance, making the video hard for viewers to form a clear opinion. I know that readers in this forum are capable of extensive following, comprehending and understanding the diverse topics that I have been presenting and they are never brainwashed.

    Readers have no time to ramble through cumbersome videos to “run out of their echo chamber”, chasing futile concepts.

    Presentations should be:

    • Straightforward and easily grasped with minimal detail.
    • Simplicity allows for quick communication without overwhelming the audience.
    • Elaborate explanations can lead to confusion rather than clarity.
    • Time constraints often favor concise information over lengthy discussions.


    Quote:
    Feminism has been a complete disaster. It may destroy our current civilization. All your posts appear to be you projecting. I mean you could look at the mirror, e.g. you are 29 and never had a relationship; however, you have f*ck buddy's. Seems like I solved it. You have no experience. You cant read or go to class to understand relationships. And what are you waiting for? Your sexual market value has been dropping since 25. You are at the wall, better get your man yesterday. But I hate to say it, but you will have an extremely hard time finding a husband, and i bet you will NOT get the man you want, you will have to settle, may be.

    Riddle me this bat girl, the bible's first chapter, warns humanity about women. It's called delusion, but lets measure that delusion: who is stronger pound for pound, men or women?


    Quote:
    First time I am seeing you and you are talking to me with so much authority on me..?






    Well bat girl instead of just insulting him you could have also tried to answer his riddle.


  • Rosilove Dating Profile
    Rosilove 432 Posts Chicago, Illinois, USA
    Aug 14, 2025 10:58 PM UTC

    Quote:
    I have gone through it. Conflicting viewpoints of participants can create cognitive dissonance, making the video hard for viewers to form a clear opinion. I know that readers in this forum are capable of extensive following, comprehending and understanding the diverse topics that I have been presenting and they are never brainwashed.

    Readers have no time to ramble through cumbersome videos to “run out of their echo chamber”, chasing futile concepts.

    Presentations should be:

    • Straightforward and easily grasped with minimal detail.
    • Simplicity allows for quick communication without overwhelming the audience.
    • Elaborate explanations can lead to confusion rather than clarity.
    • Time constraints often favor concise information over lengthy discussions.


    Quote:
    Feminism has been a complete disaster. It may destroy our current civilization. All your posts appear to be you projecting. I mean you could look at the mirror, e.g. you are 29 and never had a relationship; however, you have f*ck buddy's. Seems like I solved it. You have no experience. You cant read or go to class to understand relationships. And what are you waiting for? Your sexual market value has been dropping since 25. You are at the wall, better get your man yesterday. But I hate to say it, but you will have an extremely hard time finding a husband, and i bet you will NOT get the man you want, you will have to settle, may be.

    Riddle me this bat girl, the bible's first chapter, warns humanity about women. It's called delusion, but lets measure that delusion: who is stronger pound for pound, men or women?


    Quote:
    First time I am seeing you and you are talking to me with so much authority on me..?



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    Quote:
    Well bat girl instead of just insulting him you could have also tried to answer his riddle.



    He doesn't deserve an answer being so impolite talking to a woman first time.
    That response was to hiim only and don't interfere in other's conversation!




  • offgridenthusiast Dating Profile
    offgridenthusiast OP 686 Posts Society Hill, South Carolina, USA
    Aug 15, 2025 2:23 PM UTC


    Quote:
    Well bat girl instead of just insulting him you could have also tried to answer his riddle.



    Quote:
    He doesn't deserve an answer being so impolite talking to a woman first time.
    That response was to hiim only and don't interfere in other's conversation!



    Well you're not exactly polite either. It's funny and sad that women only see faults in men but are completely oblivious to their own. It's a narcissistic tendency that all women have to varying degrees. Feminism teaches women it's men who are narcissist. They lap it because it reinforces and expands upon their narcissism so those who follow feminism are the worst. Feminism is built specifically built for the female narcissist mind. It also works on the soy boy type male because testosterone levels have been driven down by soy and other chemicals that are being added to processed foods.
    There of course have always some narcissistic men (not including soy bots), but they are few and far between. But sadly nowadays you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a narcissistic woman.


  • Rosilove Dating Profile
    Rosilove 432 Posts Chicago, Illinois, USA
    Aug 15, 2025 4:00 PM UTC

    Quote:
    Well bat girl instead of just insulting him you could have also tried to answer his riddle.


    Quote:
    He doesn't deserve an answer being so impolite talking to a woman first time.
    That response was to hiim only and don't interfere in other's conversation!

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    Well you're not exactly polite either. It's funny and sad that women only see faults in men but are completely oblivious to their own. It's a narcissistic tendency that all women have to varying degrees. Feminism teaches women it's men who are narcissist. They lap it because it reinforces and expands upon their narcissism so those who follow feminism are the worst. Feminism is built specifically built for the female narcissist mind. It also works on the soy boy type male because testosterone levels have been driven down by soy and other chemicals that are being added to processed foods.
    There of course have always some narcissistic men (not including soy bots), but they are few and far between. But sadly nowadays you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a narcissistic woman.






  • offgridenthusiast Dating Profile
    offgridenthusiast OP 686 Posts Society Hill, South Carolina, USA
    Aug 15, 2025 11:33 PM UTC

    Quote:
    Well bat girl instead of just insulting him you could have also tried to answer his riddle.


    Quote:
    He doesn't deserve an answer being so impolite talking to a woman first time.
    That response was to hiim only and don't interfere in other's conversation!

    Quote:
    Well you're not exactly polite either. It's funny and sad that women only see faults in men but are completely oblivious to their own. It's a narcissistic tendency that all women have to varying degrees. Feminism teaches women it's men who are narcissist. They lap it because it reinforces and expands upon their narcissism so those who follow feminism are the worst. Feminism is built specifically built for the female narcissist mind. It also works on the soy boy type male because testosterone levels have been driven down by soy and other chemicals that are being added to processed foods.
    There of course have always some narcissistic men (not including soy bots), but they are few and far between. But sadly nowadays you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a narcissistic woman.





    Your narcissism is showing. Jumpy smilie emoji/emoticon smiley


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